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Bristol Old Vic was one of the Media and drama good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

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Date	Process	Result
April 21, 2009	Good article nominee	Listed
September 23, 2024	Good article reassessment	Delisted

Current status: Delisted good article

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Note moved from article text

I have removed the note below, left by an IP editor, from the article text and placed it here as it really shouldn't be within the article itself but doesn't deserve to be entirely lost. Please note that I have no expertise in this area so I don't intend to edit the article further, I'm just researching Bristol attractions for work. MorganaFiolett (talk) 10:22, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(NB: Note added by Mark Howell-Meri M. Litt, 14th Aug. 2008: kathleen Barker, "The Theatre Royal Bristol, 1766-1966" Society for Theatre Research, 1974, shows that Garrick's stage carpenter, James Saunders, actually drew the architectural plans for the Theatre Royal Bristol in 1764, as the Minutes of meetings of the theatre proprietors indicate. On 3 Dec. 1764: "were produced an Elevation Ground Plan and Section of a Theatre Drawn by Mr Saunders Carpenter of Drury Lane Play House. Resolved to Execute the Playhouse agreeable to the Above mentioned Plan..." (cited by Barker, 8. I have seen the original.)

I have read every page of the Proprietors' "Minute Books" and it is clear that Thomas Paty never made any drawings for this theatre. He clearly was not the architect in the sense we imagine today - the professional creator of architectural plans. The term "architect" in the eighteenth century meant someone responsible for decorating and making the theatre appear beautiful.)

Bristol Old Vic Theatre School

I wonder if others would agree that Bristol Old Vic Theatre School should have its own article. It shares a common origin with the Theatre Company, but since the 1990s has been separated financially and in organization.Jezhotwells (talk) 18:36, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No replies - I will work on separating the articles. Jezhotwells (talk) 20:32, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Now separated. Jezhotwells (talk) 22:56, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Bristol Old Vic/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Starting GAreview.Pyrotec (talk) 13:37, 19 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Initial review

This article is broadly at GA-level, its well illustrated and is of adequate scope. However, there is lack of verification in some areas, I'm therefore putting the article On Hold so that they can be addressed.

Areas requiring attention are:

History of the theatre -

All of the second half of the middle para is unreferenced (unverifiable).
Much of the final para prior to the Sarah Siddons citation is unreferenced.

Formation of the Bristol Old Vic -

The first sentence about being in the shadow of the Prince's is unreferenced.
Conflict of information: The Prince's opened in 1867 and was destroyed over 70 years later (= 1947) - its post war; but the Prince's was apparently destroyed in WW II.
In the following sentence, Ref 9 does not confirm the existence of a trust, it mentions Herbert Farjeon, who is not mentioned in the body of the article.
What threat of closure? It's not mentioned before. The sentence either needs some expansion, or changed to "A threat of closure in 1942 ..."

Touring -

Unreferenced.
Reference 36 is not a reference, it is merely the web address of a search facility at Bristol University.

Artistic directors of the Bristol Old Vic -

Unreferenced.

Bristol Old Vic Theatre School -

Unreferenced.

Pyrotec (talk) 19:09, 19 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think all of those points have been addressed now. I would be grateful if you would take another look. Jezhotwells (talk) 20:55, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Confirmed.Pyrotec (talk) 21:19, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Main review

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

Is it reasonably well written?
A. Prose quality:

B. MoS compliance:
Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
A. References to sources:

B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:

C. No original research:
Is it broad in its coverage?
A. Major aspects:

B. Focused:
Is it neutral?
Fair representation without bias:
Is it stable?
No edit wars, etc:
Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
Overall:
Pass or Fail:

Congratulations on the quality of the article. I'm awarding GA-status.Pyrotec (talk) 21:19, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Article split

I am thinking that this article should be split into Theatre Royal, Bristol and Bristol Old Vic. One article about the theatre, and one about the present occupying company. I will be interested in comments here. Jezhotwells (talk) 23:59, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bristol Wiki Meetup

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250th anniversary

I've just noticed (and added) a Guardian article about the theatre pointing out the 250th anniversary of it opening will be in May 2016 - should we try and get this article to FA before then?— Rod ^talk 10:53, 30 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Weston Studio capacity

I've put 188 in the infobox as the capacity of the new Weston Studio in the barrel vaults of the Coopers' Hall. I haven't seen a confirmed figure since the new redevelopment opened, but this was the number planned when the old Studio (the New Vic) closed in 2016. Goodbye to our Studio, 2016 It'll do for the time being. --rbrwr ^± 19:03, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

GA concerns

I am concerned that this article no longer meets the good article criteria. Some of my concerns are below:

There is uncited text throughout the article, including the "Engagement and Young Company" section which has an orange "Does not cite sources" banner from 2019.
The lede does not include post-2012 inforamtion.

Is anyone interested in addressing these concerns, or should this go to WP:GAR? Z1720 (talk) 01:36, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Reassessment

Bristol Old Vic

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Result: I've nuked the unsourced section, but not enough to save this article, unfortunately. Charlotte (Queen of Hearts • talk) 23:52, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There are numerous uncited statements, and an orange "does not cite sources" banner at the top of the "Engagement and Young Company" section, placed in 2019. The lead also does not contain any post-2012 information. Z1720 (talk) 02:42, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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